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APS and shield overhaul plans

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Current plans for an APS/shield overhaul.
Note that numbers are even rougher guesses than usual, these are just the outlines.

Issues with current APS and shields
  • APS raw damage is very high, newbies building their first boat get shredded. Strong APS defenses(a combination of evasion/shields/LAMS) are mandatory
  • APS coolers are a big overhead for tiny cannons, relatively small for larger ones
  • APS recoil absorbers are pointless for things with active stabilization. Recoil could even help with evasion
  • Shields make kinetic shells/railguns mostly useless, HESH only useful against weak targets(won't get hull contact on fast ones)
  • Shields still get a pretty big benefit from stacking and are pretty tedious to place
  • Getting LAMS is always good: it prevents lots of damage for its cost, from a wide range of sources
  • Rails add a flat velocity that's extremely good for shells with lots of propellant, bad for everything else

Goals of the changes
  • Make all APS shell types useful
  • Reduce extreme damage output
  • Defenses should be good, but not always obviously better than more armor/whatever else for their cost
  • Make shield placement easier
  • Make tiny/aesthetic turrets easier. Slightly penalize 100+ loader doomcannon setups(nothing extreme, complexity does a decent job at that already)


APS
  • Shell cooling/loading times tripled
  • Recoil absorbers/shell health/rail charge/CIWS damage bonus to missiles adjusted for new reload times
  • Unmitigated recoil applies an accuracy debuff that decreases over time
  • Shells now generate X heat when fired, next shell can only be fired when that heat is gone
  • All cannons dissipate Y heat/sec, each cooler adds a small amount to that
  • Rails changed to give "kinetic energy", so same rail charge gets a shell from 0 to 500 m/s, or from 500 to ~700 m/s (5*5 ~= 7*7 - 5*5).
  • Railgun chargers can connect to each other
  • Minor warhead/damage adjustments(linear HE/EMP, HESH extremes changed, ...)
Damage done scaled back to more reasonable levels, frag isn't the only choice for smaller shells.
Tiny cannons do not need coolers, small ones only a few. Extreme recoil matters.
LAMS is still good, but the damage prevented/cost goes way down so skipping it/getting something else instead are options.

Shields
  • Reflection chance now does not depend on projectile speed
  • Base reflection chance rescaled, ~10% for a perfect hit and 60% for a 0° one at strength 10. That's ~35-45% average for the strongest shield setups
  • Low strength shields are still pretty good, strength 1 has 1/3 the reflection chance of strength 10
  • Stacking limitations removed. Shells roll shield penetration when fired and use that for all checks(i.e. only the best shield strength/angle combination matters)
  • Disruptors apply a debuff to shield reflection chance, new hits increase the debuff strength. Effect decays with time, goes away in ~20 seconds from max strength
  • Disrupt mode removed, old disrupt shields converted to reflect
  • Max distance down from 25m to 15m
These changes make shields a somewhat reliable, moderate damage reduction.
All-around shields are mostly optional, they can be great but for the same cost extra armor/other things can be better in some cases.
They are very good for reinforcing small parts against penetrating damage(kinetic and HEAT/HESH frags).

Fast shells with high kinetic components have better hitrates, but do less damage overall and lose more against shields.
Disruptors will do something even if only some stray shots connect.
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APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-08, 01:40 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by temeter - 2019-08-08, 01:56 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-08, 02:08 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by temeter - 2019-08-08, 02:31 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-08, 03:21 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by temeter - 2019-08-08, 03:30 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-08, 02:39 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Pendaelose - 2019-08-08, 02:30 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Emmy - 2019-08-08, 02:30 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Skyer - 2019-08-08, 02:35 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by SLE - 2019-08-08, 03:24 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by moonruner - 2019-08-08, 03:31 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-08, 04:18 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by temeter - 2019-08-08, 04:43 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-08, 05:43 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Pendaelose - 2019-08-08, 05:35 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by temeter - 2019-08-08, 06:04 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by dmoniks - 2019-08-08, 06:08 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by temeter - 2019-08-08, 06:16 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by temeter - 2019-08-08, 06:28 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by iPersons - 2019-08-08, 06:34 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Blothorn - 2019-08-08, 06:38 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-08, 06:41 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Blothorn - 2019-08-08, 06:51 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by SynthTwo - 2019-08-08, 06:44 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-08, 07:06 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-08, 07:36 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Blothorn - 2019-08-08, 07:52 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Zuthal - 2019-08-08, 07:52 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Blothorn - 2019-08-08, 08:24 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by temeter - 2019-08-08, 08:57 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Blothorn - 2019-08-08, 11:18 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by vyrus - 2019-08-08, 11:27 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-09, 12:10 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Razgriz - 2019-08-09, 12:30 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-09, 12:36 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Lincrono - 2019-08-09, 01:43 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Maty83Cz - 2019-08-09, 06:55 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Maty83Cz - 2019-08-09, 07:02 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by The Judge - 2019-08-09, 08:02 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-09, 09:13 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Maty83Cz - 2019-08-09, 09:02 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by DelsGaming - 2019-08-09, 09:42 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-09, 10:24 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by DelsGaming - 2019-08-09, 12:04 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by GerJS - 2019-08-09, 10:26 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by moonruner - 2019-08-09, 10:41 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by killshoot - 2019-08-09, 11:07 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by FurtherV - 2019-08-09, 11:26 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Skyer - 2019-08-09, 12:59 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by moonruner - 2019-08-09, 01:15 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-09, 02:22 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Lincrono - 2019-08-09, 11:03 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by temeter - 2019-08-10, 12:50 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-10, 09:40 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-10, 09:51 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-10, 05:13 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Emmy - 2019-08-11, 01:21 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-11, 03:04 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by killshoot - 2019-08-12, 08:15 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by temeter - 2019-08-12, 10:23 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by temeter - 2019-08-11, 01:44 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by temeter - 2019-08-11, 01:48 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by temeter - 2019-08-11, 05:14 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-12, 11:24 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by killshoot - 2019-08-12, 11:59 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by draba - 2019-08-12, 12:12 PM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Chrozayis - 2019-08-13, 12:54 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Skyer - 2019-08-13, 07:15 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by temeter - 2019-08-13, 11:42 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by SynthTwo - 2019-08-16, 04:00 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by SLK18 - 2019-08-16, 04:15 AM
RE: APS and shield overhaul plans - by Cairo1 - Yesterday, 04:45 PM

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