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Sea Encounters: Ironclads [Discussion]

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(2018-08-06, 06:04 PM)DraWay Wrote: For gun numbers and calibers... I think that mixing gunnery of sailing broadsides and the ironclads into single table isn't good idea... As isn't good mixing of wooden broadsides with ironclads in the first place. It said, ironclad made old ships obsolete, probably even more so than with the Dreadnought.
Maybe, let's focus on actual ironclads? Metal coat, heavy guns (so like 180-305mm mainly, no or minimum of pewers and no dozens of barrels), mechanical propulsion (props or paddles) as mandatory and sails as option.

And here's proposition on two main classes: casemate and turreted.

Casemate cannot have anything but AI and gun components on subobjects (excluding spar mines), and cannot have more than 2 centerline guns - one fore, one aft., and none of them can have 360deg arc, representing conventional ironclad ships of time.

Turreted can have turrets at centerline and armoured, but cannot use wood in construction (but maybe up to 1,5 meters metal?), so will be smaller and easier to sink, representing early monitor class.
I think you have an overly-restrictive concept of ironclads. During the 1860s we have:
- Gloire: 36x164mm guns.
- HMS Warrior: 40 guns (including 26 206mm guns).
- USS New Ironsides: 18 guns (including 14 279mm guns).

While both sides of the American Civil War favored coastal ships with heavy armor and few big guns, most European ironclads were armed similarly to the immediately-preceding wooden ships. I think the existing subclasses do capture the options reasonably well: the Broadside subclass reflects the broadside ironclads with large numbers of guns with inflexible arcs; the Monitor class the monitors, and the default rules the casemate ironclads with fewer guns but better end-on fire than the true broadside ironclads.

Meanwhile, neither of your classes are terribly historical. Several casemate ironclads had two forward/aft guns, and most had the end guns on pivots to fire on the end and on one or both broadsides. Meanwhile, all or almost all ironclads of the era had a wooden hull, and wooden backing of the hull armor--the Monitor only had unbacked metal on the turret itself.
Allr andask.
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RE: Sea Encounters: Ironclads [Discussion] - by Blothorn - 2018-08-06, 06:28 PM
The Brokiness! - by DraWay - 2018-09-20, 03:22 AM

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