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Poll: What are Your Political Views
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Democrat
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Republican
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4 12.90%
Fascist
6.45%
2 6.45%
Socialist
16.13%
5 16.13%
Other
41.94%
13 41.94%
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What are Your Political Views?

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(2017-12-22, 09:05 AM)benzo711 Wrote: Now. Think about all the wars in history. I'd say a lot of them were because of different views. I'd also say that a lot of those "views" were different religions. Now, if god/gods truly DO love everyone, then why don't they try and stop wars and all the human slaughter? And why don't they come down and try and stop the production of weapons? (I'm not complaining. I LOVE tanks and army vehicles.) More importantly, think about WW2. It's the war with the most deaths in history. And the majority of the deaths were civilians. I'd say that a fair amount of those civilians were the jews (People who BELIEVE in god) in the concentration camps. Why didn't god come down and prevent all that? (And if it's because of a person who ate an apple, then that's ridiculously stupid.) Also, if religion didn't exist, Hitler would have at least 1-2 less races to hate/try to make extinct.


Now thats i point i wanted to mention too, god doesnt exist, or if he did, he isnt a god, rather he is alien, or some sort of quantum AI

If he did exist, why would he let millions of innocent people who believe in him get slaughtered like animals. Adolf didnt died out of god inflicted reasons, he killed himself so he wouldn't be dragged across the Europe in a cage while everybody would throw rotten fruit at him.
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(2017-12-22, 09:52 AM)mrvecz Wrote: Adolf didnt died out of god inflicted reasons, he killed himself so he wouldn't be dragged across the Europe in a cage while everybody would throw rotten fruit at him.


Well said!
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Benzo there is just one thing very incorect (ok its the gaming world more specific) Alahu akbar only means god is good/great its actualy written on the flag of Iran...

The other thing is those suciders are not even doing that conciously and are forced to do so 90%of the time.

911 for example, that was the state itself organizing the destruction of the towers its faked from start to finnish.
There is always a weak-spot if you search Hard enough.

If you fire enough AP at that shield, at some point you're going to come through.

There is no "best" I wouldn't even say there is anything universally good, Good is subjective, I find everything bad even if it's in theory good against this or that.

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(2017-12-22, 11:33 AM)Skyer Wrote: Benzo there is just one thing very incorect (ok its the gaming world more specific) Alahu akbar only means god is good/great its actualy written on the flag of Iran...
Dont know enough to be able to conclude if this is true
The other thing is those suciders are not even doing that conciously and are forced to do so 90%of the time.
Maybe so, but there forced through brainwashing, so they do it willingly to an extent
911 for example, that was the state itself organizing the destruction of the towers its faked from start to finnish.
Im sorry what?! You just said that the state organise 911 and said it was faked, so you think that 911 was orgastrated by the United States!? That is simply an insane thing to believe! I really hope I miss understood you! If I misunderstood tell me please, because admittedly my brain was struggling to make sense out of what you said here, and the only thing to come to mind was the US causing 911, which is insane
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These terrorists were supported by CIA to fight USSR in Afghanistan.
Without USA they could never grow to such level.
So the statement that USA was the cause of 911 is true.
Was the lesson learned? No! They still supporting terrorists, now in Syria.
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(2017-12-22, 12:53 PM)killshoot Wrote: These terrorists were supported by CIA to fight USSR in Afghanistan.

Sources please?
I need evidence for these things.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

The origins of al-Qaeda as a network inspiring terrorism around the world and training operatives can be traced to the Soviet War in Afghanistan (December 1979 – February 1989).[6] The US viewed the conflict in Afghanistan, with the Afghan Marxists and allied Soviet troops on one side and the native Afghan mujahideen, some of whom were radical Islamic militants, on the other, as a blatant case of Soviet expansionism and aggression.

A CIA program called Operation Cyclone channeled funds through Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency to the Afghan Mujahideen who were fighting the Soviet occupation.[117] US government financial support for the Afghan Islamic militants was substantial. Aid to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, an Afghan mujahideen leader and founder and leader of the Hezb-e Islami radical Islamic militant faction, alone amounted "by the most conservative estimates" to $600 million. In addition to receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in American aid, Hekmatyar was the recipient of the lion's share of Saudi aid.[118] (Later, in the early 1990s, after the US had withdrawn support, Hekmatyar "worked closely" with bin Laden.[119])
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(2017-12-22, 01:20 PM)killshoot Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

The origins of al-Qaeda as a network inspiring terrorism around the world and training operatives can be traced to the Soviet War in Afghanistan (December 1979 – February 1989).[6] The US viewed the conflict in Afghanistan, with the Afghan Marxists and allied Soviet troops on one side and the native Afghan mujahideen, some of whom were radical Islamic militants, on the other, as a blatant case of Soviet expansionism and aggression.

A CIA program called Operation Cyclone channeled funds through Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency to the Afghan Mujahideen who were fighting the Soviet occupation.[117] US government financial support for the Afghan Islamic militants was substantial. Aid to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, an Afghan mujahideen leader and founder and leader of the Hezb-e Islami radical Islamic militant faction, alone amounted "by the most conservative estimates" to $600 million. In addition to receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in American aid, Hekmatyar was the recipient of the lion's share of Saudi aid.[118] (Later, in the early 1990s, after the US had withdrawn support, Hekmatyar "worked closely" with bin Laden.[119])

I see, but in truth, dosnt this mean the US are just indirectly at some fault?
Since it was still terrorists who chose to do the attack, it was just the CIA's fault that they had the manpower to do it.
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(2017-12-22, 08:31 AM)Unhinged mechanic Wrote: Why the gun control though? I'd say there's a lot that could be done with background checks, but it's unrealistic to make all guns disappear and unhelpful to make them illegal.

This is the problem; in countries with super-strict gun control (eg Airstrip One) it works since there are very few guns around (some farmers get shotguns and these days they're letting some police carry guns but that's about it). Druglords are sometimes able to get guns on the black market, but for the most part people who want to go on a killing spree either have to run into people with a van or run around stabbing people (or both).

In the US it would be unthinkable to say 'orrright guns are banned now bois hand em all in' since all the criminals would keep theirs hidden so now all the people who want them for legitimate purposes (not that I really see many legitimate purposes) don't have them but the people who want them for murder keep them. But if there were no guns in the first place a lot of these mass shootings wouldn't have happened.

(2017-12-22, 08:51 AM)Unhinged mechanic Wrote: There's a problem alright, but is it really guns? I mean, mass shootings are what everyone is hung up on, but they're a tiny fraction of a percentage of the murder rate. The real problem is police forces you can't trust and massive income inequality.

For an example, I'd take a look at Switzerland. Basically everyone there has a gun. They're not allowed to use it unless they're invaded, but you're not allowed to shoot people anyway so it hardly matters. Their murder rate is MUCH lower than the murder rate in the US. Guns aren't the problem, guns aren't the solution, guns are inanimate objects that some people like to have for hunting, target shooting, or because carrying one makes them feel safer for whatever reason.

In Switzerland iirc people are allowed guns but not ammunition and guns aren't particularly lethal without bullets Tongue.

(2017-12-22, 12:54 PM)ciaranhappy Wrote:
(2017-12-22, 12:53 PM)killshoot Wrote: These terrorists were supported by CIA to fight USSR in Afghanistan.

Sources please?
I need evidence for these things.

Try this link

And this one about Bin Laden himself

Apparently the CIA separately helped a young man named Saddam Hussein attempt to assassinate the leader of Iraq which would be even funnier, but I couldn't find anything on Wikipedia to support this so it might be Putin's propaganda or something.

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As for all the atheist stuff, +1. I should point out that the Jihad business going on is basically a reverse Crusade but offset by approximately the difference in ages between Islam and Christianity and done with modern weapons.
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#30
@ciaranhappy
https://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles...474p21.pdf
That's a scientific paper from the European physics dudes.
It's only 6 pages long.
This should clear thing up for you.


The first Reason to see that its faked is that 3 towers collapsed perfectly downwards, that about the probability of a flipping coin falling on its edge...

so it's has been a controlled detonation which was I'm pretty sure not done by terrorists...
There is always a weak-spot if you search Hard enough.

If you fire enough AP at that shield, at some point you're going to come through.

There is no "best" I wouldn't even say there is anything universally good, Good is subjective, I find everything bad even if it's in theory good against this or that.

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